POKEYMANS thread

Chamomile · Post by **Chamomile** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:51 pm

Would we be basing it off of a realworld region like the official regions, or making something up? I'd suggest the latter because, while I think it's really cool how Pokemon is secretly an alternate universe Earth, we live on the internet and whatever region we pick won't be even remotely representative of the Den. I don't imagine anyone will be supremely offended because we picked a country other than theirs to serve as the basis for the region, but whatever region we pick won't be representative of the Den as a whole, which will make it less "the Den's region" and more "PokeVenezuela that happened to be designed by the Den."

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Wed Jul 30, 2014 6:56 pm

That would be one of the first polls, I think. Let me take a look at Omnis' construction and I'll work something up, since apparently there's some traction here.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:40 am

Maxus wrote:What's the theme for names? Fruit? Candy? Geologic features? Prominent weather? Metals?

"Calcium Town!" (renowned for its fossils)

Actually, why isn't there a Fossil-pokemon themed gym leader?

Well, Lenora's gym was inside a museum filled with fossils and shit, Grant uses the Gen VI fossil Pokemon, and Roark uses lots of Fossil Pokemon as well. So I guess there's sorta been some fossil themed gym leaders.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 1:57 am

Steven used a couple, too...

But still, there's enough fossil pokemon that an entire gym could be using them.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:26 am

Shrapnel wrote:Sabrina/Psychic

Sabrina is a teenage witch.

Chuck/Fighting

Either nun-chucks, or chucking people around the place.

Marlon/Water

A marlin is a fish

They aren't *always* as bad as Brock or Misty, but most gym leaders have names that are very close to their type mastery. Much like Yu-Gi-Oh! for that matter.

I like the idea of a fossil gym. Bonus points if it's in a town where they're starting to use vehicles (I know, pokemon always had moving vans) loaded with fossil fuels, and there's an uncomfortable silence regarding what it implies.

I shall declare myself to be a Fairy Gym Leader. Because Rock is kind of shitty. I will challenge those kids with Mawile (no Mega-Evolution for testing brats, that would be meanfucking hilarious), Cleffable, Carbink and something else like the flower one or the fairy-pikachu thing or something. Not appearing on the list: Klefki

Meikle641 · Post by **Meikle641** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 5:46 am

Chuck/Fighting

Chuck Norris, I'd assume.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 6:49 am

Hell, I'll call dibs on a fossil gym.

Aerodactyl, Anorite/Armaldo, Lileep/Cradily, that turtle fossil, whatever. Or a fossil from each edition to get a good type diversity going.

"The world is old, old, old. It's been home to countless amazing things. It's fascinating to learn about! And with modern technology, we can bring Pokemon of that time back, to see the things that walked and swam and flew millions of years ago.

There's plenty of strong things now, but I'm interested in the old ones...What's with that doubtful look on your face? You think newer is better? I'll prove it then. I'll show you the strength of ages gone by!"

And gives a victor a fossil.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:05 am

Ok, so first up is region name and basis: http://pokeden.tumblr.com/post/93385475 ... -and-basis

Idea submissions have until Midnight pacific time Aug 3. Now, tumblr requires an account for you to submit, so if the people interested already have tumblrs, awesome, if not, you might want to make one. Or we just handle shit in a semi messy fashion in a new thread here if sufficient people don't have/want to make tumblrs (it seriously takes like two minutes)

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:06 am

Maxus wrote:Hell, I'll call dibs on a fossil gym.

Aerodactyl, Anorite/Armaldo, Lileep/Cradily, that turtle fossil, whatever. Or a fossil from each edition to get a good type diversity going.

"The world is old, old, old. It's been home to countless amazing things. It's fascinating to learn about! And with modern technology, we can bring Pokemon of that time back, to see the things that walked and swam and flew millions of years ago.

There's plenty of strong things now, but I'm interested in the old ones...What's with that doubtful look on your face? You think newer is better? I'll prove it then. I'll show you the strength of ages gone by!"

And gives a victor a fossil.

I'm about 98% certain that every fossil pokemon is a partial rock type, so a fossil gym is an idiosyncratic rock gym

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 7:39 am

Yes, I'm well aware.

Your point is?

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Thu Jul 31, 2014 2:44 pm

Koumei wrote:
Shrapnel wrote:Sabrina/Psychic
Sabrina is a teenage witch.

Chuck/Fighting
Either nun-chucks, or chucking people around the place.

Marlon/Water
A marlin is a fish

They aren't *always* as bad as Brock or Misty, but most gym leaders have names that are very close to their type mastery. Much like Yu-Gi-Oh! for that matter.

I listed them because their names aren't immediate dead give-aways about their type (like Brock). Their names are still punnish, I will grant that. I don't know if that's better or worse than all of the Gym Leaders being named after plants in Japan.

I shall declare myself to be a Fairy Gym Leader ... I will challenge those kids with Mawile ... Cleffable, Carbink and something else like the flower one or the fairy-pikachu thing or something. Not appearing on the list: Klefki

Klefki gets no love. I actually like the little bugger. I'm probably the only one that does.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:26 am

Seems a bit mean to use "I have so many immunities and resistances" plus Prankster+Status as a Gym leader seems a bit mean.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:35 am

Ah, that makes sense. I thought you were jumping on the "Hah hah Klefki is a key ring so lame lol" bandwagon. But your thing is reasonable, so... never mind.

In regards to your Gym: a Fire/Poison team would totally pawn your line up.

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:52 am

Gyms exist to be pwnt.

Also, it seems tumblr isn't working for me.

I don't mind the region name, but making anything other than a Pokemon region seems odd. They all have more or less the same features:

-Forest area home to bugs and birds.

-A few caves/mountains containing cave complexes

-A few aquatic routes

-A high-level mountain/area for post-game

-The Place Where You Find Fire-types. Sometimes also the Place Where You Find Poison Types

-A Victory Road.

So it wouldn't be too hard to do. Just what'd be distinctive about it. Hm.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:28 am

Right, that's the question, what's distinctive- Is it "France, but with Pokemon?" Is it "America, but with Pokemon?"

Omnis Region (the region being designed by another Tumblr blog) is based on the British Isles, for example. That's all I'm asking, what's the basis for the region itself? And then for names. I mean, as much as I like my idea...

edit: also, issue resolved. I didn't realize I had to actually activate things like post replies, asks and submissions.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 3:40 am

Unova was a shitty America, in that it's not very obvious that's it's supposed to be based off of it. In fact, I was completely surprised when I discovered that Unova was supposed to be the state of New York.

Chamomile · Post by **Chamomile** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:59 am

I'm not sure if the problem is that you are unaware that every Pokemon region is a real world region distorted until it is not immediately recognizable, that you're far more familiar with Japanese geography than American, or if you just have no idea what NYC looks like from the sky. Either way, the Jersey/Manhattan/Brooklyn divide in Unova is exactly as recognizable as Bretagne (the little peninsula in the northwest of France) is on Kalos or the coastline of Kyushu is on Hoenn.

Koumei · Post by **Koumei** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:03 am

They're all assholes in Unova. Sounds like America to me :D

Maxus · Post by **Maxus** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 5:53 am

In Amurrika.

Shrapnel · Post by **Shrapnel** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 1:25 pm

Chamomile wrote:I'm not sure if the problem is that you are unaware that every Pokemon region is a real world region distorted until it is not immediately recognizable, that you're far more familiar with Japanese geography than American, or if you just have no idea what NYC looks like from the sky. Either way, the Jersey/Manhattan/Brooklyn divide in Unova is exactly as recognizable as Bretagne (the little peninsula in the northwest of France) is on Kalos or the coastline of Kyushu is on Hoenn.

I do know that each region is based off a real world locale.

Anyway, I meant it mostly in the designs of the Pokemon; almost all of the Gen VI Pokemon are recognizable as having some French influence (perfume Pokemon, poodles, royal lions, garden arrangement Pokemon, royal swords, goats, carbuncles) whereas the only Pokemon I can think of in Gen V that had a clear American design influence was Trubbish.

Also, I consider it an insult that the Japanese think Unova is a good approximation of the US; that'd be like comparing your country to Australia or Google.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:24 pm

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:31 pm

So... there have been no ideas or submissions to the tumblr. Are people actually not interested in making a region, or do people think the tumblr is just an unnecessary contrivance?

Darth Rabbitt · Post by **Darth Rabbitt** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:39 pm

Prak_Anima wrote:So... there have been no ideas or submissions to the tumblr. Are people actually not interested in making a region, or do people think the tumblr is just an unnecessary contrivance?

I can't speak for anyone else, but in my case it's the latter.

Chamomile · Post by **Chamomile** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:51 pm

I keep meaning to make a tumblr account for that, and then I keep not getting around to it. Somehow a two-minute registration process manages to be enough of a hassle to stop me from getting involved in a way that a two-minute typing up ideas process doesn't.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Sun Aug 03, 2014 10:56 pm

That's fair. I was thinking about it, and there isn't really any reason I can't use the exact same method I'd use in the tumblr on here, and just keep it to a single thread. I'll make a Den-Region Creation thread in a bit.